Bring! It! On!

In the UK, T-Mobile is doing an end-run around British Telcom by offering dirt-cheap wireless voice and broadband service:

T-Mobile’s plans involve using HSDPA to ramp up the data transfer rates of its 3G service from the current 384kbps to 1.8Mbps in 2006, and then onto 20Mbps by 2010. Better still, the service is completely open, and is offered at a flat rate of just


13 Responses to “Bring! It! On!”

  1. COD Says:

    I’m paying Verizon $14.95 a month for DSL which has had a 99.99% uptime. I’m not generally a fan of the old school telcos, but I don’t have any complaints about their DSL service.

  2. Ian Argent Says:

    Have you looked into either Sprint or Verizon Wireless’ Broadband (EVDO) service? $40-$60 (if you have a voice plan with them) for unlimited access – I believe both offer EVDO in Atlanta.

    Limitations are a rather high latency compared to landline WAN and upstream rates in the 70-100 kbps range. Downstream is in the 500-700 kbps range.

    Glenn Reynolds has a verizon high-speed card and seems to be quite happy with it.

    And it seamlessly falls back to the older 1xRTT (twice dialup) speeds in areas that are not covered by the EVDO signal.

  3. caveatBettor Says:

    T-Mobile is subsidized by Deutsche Telecom, which is subsidized by the German govt. DHL another example.

  4. Edo Says:

    The only way to improve my
    T-Mobile SDA is to make it faster.
    I can hardly wait. 🙂

  5. Sandy P Says:

    G-3 – didn’t SDB write something on the networks and I think why ours was better?

  6. Sam Says:

    The SDB article is here.

    I much prefer GSM for regular cell phone use, especially when travelling internationally (buy a local pre-paid SIM card whereever you are, and you don’t pay for incoming calls). But my opinions are from the user end of things, he, unlike me, knows what he’s talking about.

  7. rosignol Says:

    T-Mobile is subsidized by Deutsche Telecom, which is subsidized by the German govt.


    If the German government is willing to subsidize my internet access at the expense of the German taxpayer, fine by me.

  8. triticale Says:

    Because of the latency and assymetry, EVDO is expressly not suited to any realtime application, including VOIP. Says so right in the introductory literature. The standard was developed with web surfing in mind.

    Any cellular network faces several bandwidth issues. The assymetry of EVDO is one way of dealing with available RF spectrum. The next issue is wireside bandwidth; the size of the pipe running to the cell site. For voice only, you can run a low volume site off a shared T-1, busy ones may take two or three. Start marketing broadband to the home and the requirement jumps. T-Mobile buys wireside from a nominal competitor; their infrastructure is BTSs and BSCs only. The investment to do here what they are doing in England would be absolutely massive if the current source of T-1 backs out.

  9. triticale Says:

    By the way, altho EVDO falls back to 1xRTT seamlessly, it tends to stay there even when you get back into an EVDO sector.

  10. Neo Says:

    I have a hard time believing that there is an economic model that works for HSDPA, except possibly in the richest neighborhoods in the world.

    The current price per byte is high and the price per kilobyte staggering. That 20Mbps is practically the bandwidth of an entire tower, which is supposed to handle dozens of customers.

    If you think $0.10 a minute is high, just try to wrap your brain around 12 or 20 times that price.

  11. Tom Says:

    I’d be highly skeptical of the ‘unlimited’ part of the deal. Loads of people have run up against the limits of their supposedly ‘unlimited’ service. Usually the fine print says something like “except in the case of ‘abusive bandwidth use'”, and the definition of ‘abusive’ is whatever they say it is. So, where you see ‘unlimited’ it should read ‘arbitrary, undisclosed, and capricious limits’.

  12. Ian Argent Says:

    I personally work with EVDO devices in my day job – I know ALL about the limitations. Some of which, admittedly, are carrier-implemented. Please note that some carriers are more lax than others when it comes to acceptable use. OTOH, the freaking cable companies have the exact same kind of BS “unlimited” usage (except if they decide you’re abusing the privilege) limitations…

    I don’t use a EVDO device on my own time (I’m stuck on the older 1xRTT network due to device limitations exacerbated by carrier stupidity when I’m mobile) but it’s still pretty nifty

  13. DL From Heidelberg Says:

    I pay 9.99 euros (about $13) a month to T-Online here in Germany for DSL and unlimited online access. They throw in 2 hours of free Germany-wide land line phone calls on top of that.

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